it says that, in a culture, laws can come and go. what they call manners stay. manners are the way people treat each other and how they regard each other and how they behave. this is very appealing to the new americans. one thing they are inventing, a whole bunch of laws they are not sure people would buy. they needed people to behave. the phrase they used was republican virtue. that meant people would put the interests of the country before themselves. how do you get people to do that? they looked to the women of the class to start enforcing national matters. these white women of the cities were very conscious of that. >> here are the phone lines. if you live in the eastern or central time zones, our number is -- please dial carefully. we will take calls and another 10 minutes. this is a facebook question. i will turn to you has a long time curator of first ladies. the early first ladies for excellence riders. in what conditions are early letters? we saw thousands of letters last week. but what about dolley madison? what did she preserved? did she have a sense